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    <title>topic Re: Victoria buy a battery or not? Have 20solar panels in Solar, Batteries &amp; Electrification</title>
    <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/Victoria-buy-a-battery-or-not-Have-20solar-panels/m-p/15964#M851</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Leigh12,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You need to work out your actual costs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You say $50-$70 a month does that include your supply charge.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at general plans for Vic that it costs $1.00 a day ($30 a month for supply).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That leaves $20-$40 a month if you are correct.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So at 20c a KW that means you are using 100 to 200 Kw a month or 3.4&amp;nbsp; to&amp;nbsp; 6.7 Kw a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are already taking into consideration&amp;nbsp; the monthly amount of your feed in Tariff that means you have no extra solar power to charge the batteries.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For last month I exported 850Kw back into the Grid, purchased 115Kw, consumed 170Kw of my solar output.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So that's +$170-($40+$30) or a Credit of $100 for the month onto my Bill.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That figure is Feed-in-(Elect used +Supply Charge)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at those figures it would take me $5000/$100 or 50 months&amp;nbsp; to make the investment neutral. (but only get that for about 6months of the year, hence the 100 months to get my investment back)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But in winter I would have no credit as I would be consuming all of my solar on the premises charging my batteries to get 3kw of "free" power at night. I already get free hot water from my panels (have a heat pump).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I rang (in SA) a battery supplier and after a very brief discussion he said that it would not be worth it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use less than 5Kw a day and generate on average 17kw a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So we are about neutral.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A quick calculation by the guy said it would take us about 10 years to re-cover the cost. (The battery would have cost around $5K installed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try a phone call with your WINTER bill on hand to give the details. Its all about what you can do in winter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hopes this helps&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Neil&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PS:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;By the way saying you have 20 panels is not a good way of explaining your solar panels.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have 24 panels capable of a a maximum 6.6 KW output but we only have a 5Kw inverter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This means on days of less sun we can produce more power but on days of good sun we loose 1.6Kw a day as the inverter dumps it as heat.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:50:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>NeilC</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-12-02T13:50:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Victoria buy a battery or not? Have 20solar panels</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/Victoria-buy-a-battery-or-not-Have-20solar-panels/m-p/15690#M850</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi live in&amp;nbsp;Victoria do I buy a battery or not? Have 20solar panels buy approx $50 -70 a month to cover night usage?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:36:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Leigh12</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-17T04:36:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Victoria buy a battery or not? Have 20solar panels</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/Victoria-buy-a-battery-or-not-Have-20solar-panels/m-p/15964#M851</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Leigh12,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You need to work out your actual costs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You say $50-$70 a month does that include your supply charge.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at general plans for Vic that it costs $1.00 a day ($30 a month for supply).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That leaves $20-$40 a month if you are correct.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So at 20c a KW that means you are using 100 to 200 Kw a month or 3.4&amp;nbsp; to&amp;nbsp; 6.7 Kw a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are already taking into consideration&amp;nbsp; the monthly amount of your feed in Tariff that means you have no extra solar power to charge the batteries.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For last month I exported 850Kw back into the Grid, purchased 115Kw, consumed 170Kw of my solar output.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So that's +$170-($40+$30) or a Credit of $100 for the month onto my Bill.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That figure is Feed-in-(Elect used +Supply Charge)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at those figures it would take me $5000/$100 or 50 months&amp;nbsp; to make the investment neutral. (but only get that for about 6months of the year, hence the 100 months to get my investment back)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But in winter I would have no credit as I would be consuming all of my solar on the premises charging my batteries to get 3kw of "free" power at night. I already get free hot water from my panels (have a heat pump).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I rang (in SA) a battery supplier and after a very brief discussion he said that it would not be worth it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use less than 5Kw a day and generate on average 17kw a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So we are about neutral.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A quick calculation by the guy said it would take us about 10 years to re-cover the cost. (The battery would have cost around $5K installed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try a phone call with your WINTER bill on hand to give the details. Its all about what you can do in winter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hopes this helps&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Neil&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PS:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;By the way saying you have 20 panels is not a good way of explaining your solar panels.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have 24 panels capable of a a maximum 6.6 KW output but we only have a 5Kw inverter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This means on days of less sun we can produce more power but on days of good sun we loose 1.6Kw a day as the inverter dumps it as heat.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:50:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/Victoria-buy-a-battery-or-not-Have-20solar-panels/m-p/15964#M851</guid>
      <dc:creator>NeilC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-02T13:50:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Victoria buy a battery or not? Have 20solar panels</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/Victoria-buy-a-battery-or-not-Have-20solar-panels/m-p/16021#M852</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Leigh12,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The short answer is "No".&amp;nbsp; The reason being is due to the high cost of batteries, you would not see a return on the expenses anytime soon if you figure the cost of the battery.&amp;nbsp; I would say, remain solar only, and wait and see how much batteries cost in 5 years.&amp;nbsp; Then it may be cheap enough to have batteries fitted.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Schander&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2019 05:16:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/Victoria-buy-a-battery-or-not-Have-20solar-panels/m-p/16021#M852</guid>
      <dc:creator>Schander</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-05T05:16:08Z</dc:date>
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