topic Re: solar feed in tarff prices in Solar, Batteries & Electrification

solar feed in tarff prices

letitia — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 03:31:00 GMT

hello just wanting to know the prices for solar feed in

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

Zues — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:56:09 GMT

Eight cents per kw but its not worth having solar panels unless you get a battery to run your house at night.

Every kw you use from the battery is worth thirty four cents to you.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 21:52:35 GMT

@letitia @Zues

I suggest that you look on the AGL website and see what is available to you.

Click HERE do view AGL plans.

Do not believe what has been stated here I get over twice the figure stated above

Purchasing a battery may be of no value to you, it all depends how much excess power that you place back onto the grid.

I would suggest the other person reviews their current plan as well.

Pricing is dependant on where you live and your personal situation.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

Zues — Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:57:40 GMT

you can only get 16 cents feed in tariff if you have a small system under 10kw

I have 26kw of panels and 26 kw of batteries, i do not get power bills even in the winter time in Adelaide as the batteries run the 8kw AC plus power the house each night and supply eccess power to the grid.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Tue, 22 Jun 2021 06:37:05 GMT

@Zues

As I stated in my reply to @letitia .

Don't believe what you read.

The original question was what I answered, how to find the tariffs.

In SA, NOW a single phase home can only get a 5kW licence, a three phase home can only have a 15kw licence.

I get paid 20c per KW and we only use 5kw a day and at the moment (ie JUNE) our 6.6kw system is only producing an average of 13kw a day, we are consuming (average) 4.21kw a day, from the solar we produce, and we are using an average of 5.166 Kw a day.

Our daily cost for electricity (all inclusive of all charges/export) is $0.3407 a day.

We owe nothing on the solar and have $800 credit on our AGL account (which they will pay us for at the EOFY).

Now having said that.

Is there any reason why you would like to confuse @letitia any more ????

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

josef — Sat, 07 Aug 2021 11:15:50 GMT

Solar feed-in Prices are paltry, usually not more than 6 0r 8 cents.

a better way is to use the electricity by storing it in a battery and using it yourself.

that way you offset the price of 25 to 28c per kWh that your electricity supplier is charging you.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Wed, 01 Sep 2021 10:55:22 GMT

@Zues

If what you are stating is correct.

8kW AC would use 24 kW in three hours and nearly discharge your battery.

Read your manual your AC may use 3kw and would depend on your current duty cycle (ie your temperature setting)

As I have always stated don't always believe what you read here.

Cheers

Neil

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

Zues — Wed, 01 Sep 2021 11:43:22 GMT

Neil

you are correct, if we run it for four hours at night the batteries will run out at about 5am and draw power from the grid until sunup.

Just got my winter bill 24 may to 21 Aug $40.15 but they took it off my credit and paid me $2,280.10

Personally i love my batteries.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

cedunasa — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:44:06 GMT

from my bill i get 16c but pay 36 cents and what I see is they measure the energy used and charge at the 36 cents then deduct anything you generate, so if during the day I generate 5kw and use 5kw they will pay me 80 cents but charge me $1.80. even though all the power used was generated from my solar panels. (also add the 80 cents a day supply charge) The only way to get to use the power you generate and not be charged for the your own power is to go off-grid. Using batteries at night sounds good but I believe they can also draw power from your system(batteries) to feed the neighbors and if there is a power outage you still get no power.

I have 2 properties, one totally off-grid and the other a holiday place where we recently spent 3 weeks there and although we generated power from the solar panels for 12 weeks and only used for 3 weeks we got a $75 bill.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 08:36:31 GMT

@cedunasa

Well, let me have a guess at a few things.

From your name I believe you may be in Ceduna SA.

You get a feed in tariff of 16c per kwH.

You pay 36c per kwH for usage.

You pay 80c per day to SAPN for supply charge.

Now if you generate 5kw you will get 5*16 or $0.90

But you also use 5kw or 5*32 or $1.60 a day.

You pay 80 per day $0.80.

Your cost per day is

Usage $0.80 plus $1.60 or $2.40 a day

You generate $0.90 a day

Total cost per day is then $2.40 - $0.90 or $1.50 per day.

There are 90 days in a billing cycle.

90 * $1.50 = $135....

Now you are saying you only got a $75 bill,

Looks to me like you are ahead.

Without all the facts can't help you much.

If you have an old solar system I can tell you that some require a MANUAL restart after a power failure (quite common at Ceduna).

With no usage and no solar you would expect to pay 90*$0.80 or $72 every billing period.

Please come back and tell us what your issue is.

Cheers

Neil

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

cedunasa — Sun, 19 Sep 2021 01:09:18 GMT

as you can see below the meter reads over the 90 days, however with the usage we were only there for 20 days of the 90 and the other 70 days all breakers are switched off except the mains switch which means all solar power generated goes back into the grid.

Obviously there is a difference between the winter months than the summer months.

My main question is if we are using less power during the day than the system generates is that power free to us and not charged and the excess then goes into the grid for a credit or do we get charged for power consumed and then a credit for the power generated.

The system was installed in 2017, and yes we do get a lot of notifications of the power being dropped offline for the day whilst work is being done.

This account is for our place on Yorke peninsula, my Ceduna place is off the grid.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Sun, 19 Sep 2021 05:05:36 GMT

@cedunasa

Ok, a bit confused here as you seem to showing parts of two bills.

So lets only look at the billing period, 11th June till 13 Sept 21.

You changed from solar to solar savers during this period.

As you do not have a smart meter your bill is calculated on daily averages,

The are 95 days in your billing cycle.

You daily use for GeneralUsage is 460 / 95 ( 4.842105kW a day)

Your solar output is 1173 / 95 (12.348kW a day)

So you would have been paid 6*12.348kW at your solar rate and then 89*12.348kW at your solar savers rate.

I am going to make up some easy figures her to explain your bill.

For your solar rate lets make it $0.10 a kW, for your solar savers lets make it $0.20 a kW.

For your GeneralUsage lets make it $0.40 a kW.

Your supply charge is $1.00 a day.

All prices I have made up include GST if applicable.

Supply Charge 95 days $95.00

GeneralUsage 95 days $184.00

- $279.00 (Debit)

Solar 6 days $7.41

SolarSavers 89 days $219.78

+$227.19 (Credit)

Your final bill would be $279.00 minus $227.19 You need to pay $51.81 for this period

So you have to calculate your debits and your credits and the subtract your credits from debits to get any amount payable.

Cheers

Neil

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

cedunasa — Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:04:57 GMT

Hi Neil,

the Math's of it is not my problem, just disappointed that 20 days use outstrips 95 days of generation and if I had used it for 95 days the bill would have been $750 - $175 = $575 guess I am spoilt by being off the grid in Ceduna.

Could be worse when I was in Darwin in 1979 if people had their own generators they had to be wired in before the meters, so you paid them for the power you generated from your own generator.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:50:07 GMT

@cedunasa,

Well I am behind this billing period.

Cost Per Day	-$ 0.6626
	Supply Cost per Day	$ 0.8910
	Peak Usage per Day	$ 1.7701
	Off Peak usage per Day	$ -
	Solar income per day	$ 3.3236

So my projection for the end of my current billing period is a measly $60 Credit, this is due to the number of overcast days. Last week or so has been good with some higher generation days.

Below is my tracking for the month so far and we look like generating just over 34kW today as well.

Date	Peak	Exported	Solar Gen	Used
Carried Fwd	214.059	663.275	869.8	206.525
1-Sep-21	4.576	26.373	30.90	4.53
2-Sep-21	4.144	22.665	28.30	5.64
3-Sep-21	3.639	10.963	15.80	4.84
4-Sep-21	4.328	17.115	21.10	3.99
5-Sep-21	3.666	20.126	25.90	5.77
6-Sep-21	3.881	14.174	18.20	4.03
7-Sep-21	3.636	14.985	20.30	5.32
8-Sep-21	4.144	27.704	33.00	5.30
9-Sep-21	3.589	28.884	33.50	4.62
10-Sep-21	3.120	29.516	33.80	4.28
11-Sep-21	3.401	26.090	29.90	3.81
12-Sep-21	4.737	19.431	24.10	4.67
13-Sep-21	4.139	14.253	19.80	5.55
14-Sep-21	5.972	19.678	23.70	4.02
15-Sep-21	2.942	28.206	32.10	3.89
16-Sep-21	3.425	31.342	34.90	3.56
17-Sep-21	4.513	28.209	33.20	4.99
18-Sep-21	5.759	20.577	25.20	4.62

I don't know if you realised that if you only used power for 20 days in your bill then you were using 460 / 20 or 23kW a day which is about the same amount we used in the first six days of this month.

You should take the time and review your usage. Look at your fridges, lights, hot water service etc.

Have a good day.

Cheers

Neil

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Re: solar feed in tarff prices

Zues — Thu, 07 Oct 2021 23:37:22 GMT

it was 8c but know the dogs have dropped the feed in price to 5c a kw without saying anything

very slimey in my books

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

cedunasa — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 00:10:26 GMT

the rate varies depending on your location, I am getting 12cents on the Yorke peninsula SA at my shack,

but also you need to continually be checking the rates and re-sign up to keep the max rate, if you go 12 months then they revert you back to the minimum.

in the past when I had a shop I would have to change provider to get them to call me back and offer a

better rate for me not to change.

at my home I am completely off grid as I am over 2.5 km from a power line and they wanted me to pay $250,000 for the line in so they could then charge me for power...

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

Zues — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 07:57:41 GMT

pretty good incentive to go off grid if you ask me.

Re: solar feed in tarff prices

NeilC — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 08:16:34 GMT

@Zues

I don't know where you live but in most states:

1. If power goes past the property you will be charged a supply charge.

2. If mains water goes past the property you will be charged a supply charge.

3. If sewage goes past the property you will be charged a supply charge.

Cheers

Neil