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    <title>topic A Case Study Of Solar Panel Economics: 5 kW vs 10 kW in Solar, Batteries &amp; Electrification</title>
    <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/A-Case-Study-Of-Solar-Panel-Economics-5-kW-vs-10-kW/m-p/17318#M1139</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Updated to 31 March 2020&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SUMMARY &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am a retired electrical engineer, living in Adelaide, and involved in the AGL VPP.&amp;nbsp; On 01/11/18 our Sunverge system was replaced by a Fronius Primo 5.0 kW inverter and a Tesla 13.5 kWh Powerwall 2 battery.&amp;nbsp; We have 5.2 kW of panels on the roof, consisting of 20 REC 260 PE panels facing north at an angle of 27.5° above the horizontal, and with no shading.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I refer you to &lt;A href="https://community.agl.com.au/t5/Renewables-and-Energy-Technology/The-Significant-Cost-Benefits-of-Solar-Panels/m-p/6133?search-action-id=22135617459&amp;amp;search-result-uid=6133" target="_blank"&gt;The Significant Cost Benefits of Solar Panels&lt;/A&gt; for further reading, and for those considering a solar battery, &lt;A href="https://community.agl.com.au/t5/Renewables-and-Energy-Technology/An-Engineer-s-Case-Study-Panels-Are-A-Must-But-Forget-The/td-p/17291" target="_blank"&gt;An Engineer's Case Study: Panels Are A Must, But Forget The Battery&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have considered adding more solar production capability using our vacant east and west facing roofs.&amp;nbsp; In order to better understand the cost-benefits of this, I have analysed 1.42 years of data from 1 November 2018 until 31 March 2020.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to understand how much extra feed-in revenue would result from increased production, I have analysed 30 minute interval AGL Solar Command solar production data, and scaled it up, allowing for a maximum allowable SA Power Networks feed-in of 5 kW, using 1 kW increments in rooftop solar panels from 5 kW to 13 kW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to understand how much our grid imports would be reduced as a result of increased production, I have analysed daily data to identify all those days when consumption exceeded production, and we would have imported grid energy.&amp;nbsp; Increased solar production will mean less energy imported on those days, and possibly fewer days on which imports are required.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ANALYSIS&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Table 1.jpg" style="width: 612px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1574iE94D4B7937CA8AAF/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Table 1.jpg" alt="Table 1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Table 1 above shows how the feed-in revenue increases as the panel power increases.&amp;nbsp; The revenue numbers in Row 3 are based on the estimated solar production in Row 2, and our current AGL feed-in tariff of $0.2000 per kWh.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 4 is the average solar energy produced (kWh) for each of the half hourly intervals between 1 November 2018 and 31 March 2020.&amp;nbsp; This data is revenue grade data from AGL’s Solar Command.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 5 is the maximum solar energy produced (kWh) for each of the half hourly intervals between 1 November 2018 and 31 March 2020.&amp;nbsp; This shows that all feed-in energy has been limited to 5 kW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have extended the solar panel power out to 13 kW just to give an idea of the trend, rather than as a desirable goal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Table 2.jpg" style="width: 548px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1575i2F7A9A15D07A022F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Table 2.jpg" alt="Table 2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Table 2 above shows how the peak grid imports decreases as the panel power increases.&amp;nbsp; The cost numbers in Row 3 are based on the estimated imported energy in Row 2, and our current AGL peak (general usage) tariff of $0.4158 per kWh.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 4 shows the number of days between&amp;nbsp; 1 November 2018 and 31 March 2020 for which household consumption exceeded solar production, and we had to import grid energy.&amp;nbsp; This number shows a decline with increasing solar panels, as more solar energy means there are fewer days in which consumption exceeds production.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Table 3.jpg" style="width: 604px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1576i545A3FC72C5FF28C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Table 3.jpg" alt="Table 3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Table 3 above shows the combined savings for 6 kW to 13 kW of panels, relative to having 5.2 kW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The revenue numbers in Row 2 are derived from Table 1, Row 3, and are the difference between the revenues for each panel size minus $1,174.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The cost numbers in Row 3 are derived from Table 2, Row 3, and are the difference between the cost for each panel size minus $125.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 4 is the sum total of revenue increases and reduced grid costs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Graph.jpg" style="width: 977px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1577i3BC9843BEEF7B830/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Graph.jpg" alt="Graph.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;CONCLUSION&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the basis of the savings shown in Table 3, I have decided to install 8 x 330-watt panels on the eastern roof, and the same on the western roof, with a Fronius Primo 4 kW inverter.&amp;nbsp; The installation cost of $6,000 should result in a payback time of less than 10 years, and given my desire to be a part of the solution, and not the problem, I consider that worthwhile.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The rated output of 16 x 330-watt panels is 5.28 kW, but given the east-west orientation, that will be reduced by about 16% to 18%, to 4.38 kW at best.&amp;nbsp; For further details on orientation, see &lt;A href="https://community.agl.com.au/t5/Renewables-and-Energy-Technology/Monthly-seasonal-and-annual-solar-production-data-for-Adelaide/td-p/5826" target="_blank"&gt;Monthly, Seasonal And Annual Solar Production Data For Adelaide&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The western roof is also subject to shading, so I will be installing 6 TIGO optimisers on that side.&amp;nbsp; The use of a second Fronius Primo inverter enables proportional feed-in from both inverters, and for the Fronius Smart Meter to facilitate 5 kW feed-in limiting from both inverters.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 02:40:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-04-02T02:40:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>A Case Study Of Solar Panel Economics: 5 kW vs 10 kW</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/A-Case-Study-Of-Solar-Panel-Economics-5-kW-vs-10-kW/m-p/17318#M1139</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Updated to 31 March 2020&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SUMMARY &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am a retired electrical engineer, living in Adelaide, and involved in the AGL VPP.&amp;nbsp; On 01/11/18 our Sunverge system was replaced by a Fronius Primo 5.0 kW inverter and a Tesla 13.5 kWh Powerwall 2 battery.&amp;nbsp; We have 5.2 kW of panels on the roof, consisting of 20 REC 260 PE panels facing north at an angle of 27.5° above the horizontal, and with no shading.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I refer you to &lt;A href="https://community.agl.com.au/t5/Renewables-and-Energy-Technology/The-Significant-Cost-Benefits-of-Solar-Panels/m-p/6133?search-action-id=22135617459&amp;amp;search-result-uid=6133" target="_blank"&gt;The Significant Cost Benefits of Solar Panels&lt;/A&gt; for further reading, and for those considering a solar battery, &lt;A href="https://community.agl.com.au/t5/Renewables-and-Energy-Technology/An-Engineer-s-Case-Study-Panels-Are-A-Must-But-Forget-The/td-p/17291" target="_blank"&gt;An Engineer's Case Study: Panels Are A Must, But Forget The Battery&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have considered adding more solar production capability using our vacant east and west facing roofs.&amp;nbsp; In order to better understand the cost-benefits of this, I have analysed 1.42 years of data from 1 November 2018 until 31 March 2020.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to understand how much extra feed-in revenue would result from increased production, I have analysed 30 minute interval AGL Solar Command solar production data, and scaled it up, allowing for a maximum allowable SA Power Networks feed-in of 5 kW, using 1 kW increments in rooftop solar panels from 5 kW to 13 kW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to understand how much our grid imports would be reduced as a result of increased production, I have analysed daily data to identify all those days when consumption exceeded production, and we would have imported grid energy.&amp;nbsp; Increased solar production will mean less energy imported on those days, and possibly fewer days on which imports are required.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ANALYSIS&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Table 1.jpg" style="width: 612px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1574iE94D4B7937CA8AAF/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Table 1.jpg" alt="Table 1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Table 1 above shows how the feed-in revenue increases as the panel power increases.&amp;nbsp; The revenue numbers in Row 3 are based on the estimated solar production in Row 2, and our current AGL feed-in tariff of $0.2000 per kWh.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 4 is the average solar energy produced (kWh) for each of the half hourly intervals between 1 November 2018 and 31 March 2020.&amp;nbsp; This data is revenue grade data from AGL’s Solar Command.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 5 is the maximum solar energy produced (kWh) for each of the half hourly intervals between 1 November 2018 and 31 March 2020.&amp;nbsp; This shows that all feed-in energy has been limited to 5 kW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have extended the solar panel power out to 13 kW just to give an idea of the trend, rather than as a desirable goal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Table 2.jpg" style="width: 548px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1575i2F7A9A15D07A022F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Table 2.jpg" alt="Table 2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Table 2 above shows how the peak grid imports decreases as the panel power increases.&amp;nbsp; The cost numbers in Row 3 are based on the estimated imported energy in Row 2, and our current AGL peak (general usage) tariff of $0.4158 per kWh.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 4 shows the number of days between&amp;nbsp; 1 November 2018 and 31 March 2020 for which household consumption exceeded solar production, and we had to import grid energy.&amp;nbsp; This number shows a decline with increasing solar panels, as more solar energy means there are fewer days in which consumption exceeds production.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Table 3.jpg" style="width: 604px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1576i545A3FC72C5FF28C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Table 3.jpg" alt="Table 3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Table 3 above shows the combined savings for 6 kW to 13 kW of panels, relative to having 5.2 kW.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The revenue numbers in Row 2 are derived from Table 1, Row 3, and are the difference between the revenues for each panel size minus $1,174.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The cost numbers in Row 3 are derived from Table 2, Row 3, and are the difference between the cost for each panel size minus $125.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Row 4 is the sum total of revenue increases and reduced grid costs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Graph.jpg" style="width: 977px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1577i3BC9843BEEF7B830/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Graph.jpg" alt="Graph.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;CONCLUSION&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the basis of the savings shown in Table 3, I have decided to install 8 x 330-watt panels on the eastern roof, and the same on the western roof, with a Fronius Primo 4 kW inverter.&amp;nbsp; The installation cost of $6,000 should result in a payback time of less than 10 years, and given my desire to be a part of the solution, and not the problem, I consider that worthwhile.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The rated output of 16 x 330-watt panels is 5.28 kW, but given the east-west orientation, that will be reduced by about 16% to 18%, to 4.38 kW at best.&amp;nbsp; For further details on orientation, see &lt;A href="https://community.agl.com.au/t5/Renewables-and-Energy-Technology/Monthly-seasonal-and-annual-solar-production-data-for-Adelaide/td-p/5826" target="_blank"&gt;Monthly, Seasonal And Annual Solar Production Data For Adelaide&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The western roof is also subject to shading, so I will be installing 6 TIGO optimisers on that side.&amp;nbsp; The use of a second Fronius Primo inverter enables proportional feed-in from both inverters, and for the Fronius Smart Meter to facilitate 5 kW feed-in limiting from both inverters.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 02:40:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Solar-Batteries-Electrification/A-Case-Study-Of-Solar-Panel-Economics-5-kW-vs-10-kW/m-p/17318#M1139</guid>
      <dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-04-02T02:40:32Z</dc:date>
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