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    <title>topic Re: Live Electricity Usage Reading vs Electricity Usage and Solar Feed In Reading in Energy Accounts &amp; Plans</title>
    <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Energy-Accounts-Plans/Live-Electricity-Usage-Reading-vs-Electricity-Usage-and-Solar/m-p/33563#M4836</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/124529"&gt;@LindaOGorman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Linda,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are on a single rate tariff, your consumption and generation should be about correct for the DATE shown however this (or those amounts) do not include your supply cost.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="DataScreen.jpg" style="width: 819px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/2775iDA815EA3FC65426D/image-dimensions/819x344?v=v2" width="819" height="344" role="button" title="DataScreen.jpg" alt="DataScreen.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; Above is what I see you can see the differences that you are suggesting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now neither of them are correct, I am on a time of use plan and my projected bill for the 4 Oct is&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ProjBill.jpg" style="width: 319px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/2776i6C181B2E06C3A89E/image-dimensions/319x500?v=v2" width="319" height="500" role="button" title="ProjBill.jpg" alt="ProjBill.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is based on the data I download from My Account about 5 mins ago, you can see my usage for Time of Use, my Solar generation and the supply charge for the 90 day period, this amount is slightly higher than I am expecting as we have no over cast days predicted for the next five days, so will generate more solar.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You can see that my solar feed in, is nowhere near their stated amount and is fact calculated on the highest amount of 15 cent feed in, not the 5 cents that I get after 14kw a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My usage is calculated at 50c and not the Peak, Off Peak and Shoulder charges as in my calculation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SO, NONE OF THE READINGS ARE LIVE, NEITHER OF THEM ARE CORRECT, however you can see that the overview is approximately twice the NET USAGE page.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you get the Overview figure divide that by 85 (the number of days in this billing period) you will get ($73.80 divided by 85) $0.87 per day then add my supply charge of $1.15 you will get $2.00 per day of $180 for the billing period.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you use the net usage figure then its (($41 / 85)+$1.15 ) * 90 or $147 for the billing period.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Neither of these are correct and my estimation of $95 is what I expect the bill to be on the 4th Oct&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the 31st August my estimated bill was&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="431"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="239"&gt;Total Payable+GST&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="192"&gt;&amp;nbsp;$&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 121.69&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And on the 31st July it was&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="431"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="239"&gt;Total Payable+GST&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="192"&gt;&amp;nbsp;$&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 140.56&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On that date :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="431"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="239"&gt;Payment Required Per Fortnight&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="192"&gt;&amp;nbsp;$&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 21.87&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;By the way we pay $22.50 to AGL every fortnight so we have paid $112.50 off of our expected $95 bill, meaning will have $92&amp;nbsp;credit going into the next billing period.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;We don't ever have bill shock....&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2023 06:22:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>NeilC</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-09-30T06:22:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Live Electricity Usage Reading vs Electricity Usage and Solar Feed In Reading</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Energy-Accounts-Plans/Live-Electricity-Usage-Reading-vs-Electricity-Usage-and-Solar/m-p/33551#M4835</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;On the AGL website, within the "Overview" dashboard, it shows a live cost to date within that billing period. However within the "Usage" dashboard it shows a different reading. This is completely misleading as the usage dashboard seems to suggest the bill is far less than what it actually is.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I asked a rep in AGL on this and they said the Usage dashboard was just a guide. I find it hard to believe that within one section of the site you can have a live reading and in another it is just a guide.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sooooo over AGL&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2023 07:44:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>LindaOGorman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-29T07:44:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Live Electricity Usage Reading vs Electricity Usage and Solar Feed In Reading</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Energy-Accounts-Plans/Live-Electricity-Usage-Reading-vs-Electricity-Usage-and-Solar/m-p/33563#M4836</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/124529"&gt;@LindaOGorman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Linda,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are on a single rate tariff, your consumption and generation should be about correct for the DATE shown however this (or those amounts) do not include your supply cost.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="DataScreen.jpg" style="width: 819px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/2775iDA815EA3FC65426D/image-dimensions/819x344?v=v2" width="819" height="344" role="button" title="DataScreen.jpg" alt="DataScreen.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; Above is what I see you can see the differences that you are suggesting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now neither of them are correct, I am on a time of use plan and my projected bill for the 4 Oct is&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="ProjBill.jpg" style="width: 319px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/2776i6C181B2E06C3A89E/image-dimensions/319x500?v=v2" width="319" height="500" role="button" title="ProjBill.jpg" alt="ProjBill.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is based on the data I download from My Account about 5 mins ago, you can see my usage for Time of Use, my Solar generation and the supply charge for the 90 day period, this amount is slightly higher than I am expecting as we have no over cast days predicted for the next five days, so will generate more solar.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You can see that my solar feed in, is nowhere near their stated amount and is fact calculated on the highest amount of 15 cent feed in, not the 5 cents that I get after 14kw a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My usage is calculated at 50c and not the Peak, Off Peak and Shoulder charges as in my calculation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SO, NONE OF THE READINGS ARE LIVE, NEITHER OF THEM ARE CORRECT, however you can see that the overview is approximately twice the NET USAGE page.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you get the Overview figure divide that by 85 (the number of days in this billing period) you will get ($73.80 divided by 85) $0.87 per day then add my supply charge of $1.15 you will get $2.00 per day of $180 for the billing period.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you use the net usage figure then its (($41 / 85)+$1.15 ) * 90 or $147 for the billing period.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Neither of these are correct and my estimation of $95 is what I expect the bill to be on the 4th Oct&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the 31st August my estimated bill was&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="431"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="239"&gt;Total Payable+GST&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="192"&gt;&amp;nbsp;$&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 121.69&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And on the 31st July it was&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="431"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="239"&gt;Total Payable+GST&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="192"&gt;&amp;nbsp;$&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 140.56&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On that date :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE width="431"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD width="239"&gt;Payment Required Per Fortnight&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD width="192"&gt;&amp;nbsp;$&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 21.87&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;By the way we pay $22.50 to AGL every fortnight so we have paid $112.50 off of our expected $95 bill, meaning will have $92&amp;nbsp;credit going into the next billing period.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;We don't ever have bill shock....&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2023 06:22:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Energy-Accounts-Plans/Live-Electricity-Usage-Reading-vs-Electricity-Usage-and-Solar/m-p/33563#M4836</guid>
      <dc:creator>NeilC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-30T06:22:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Live Electricity Usage Reading vs Electricity Usage and Solar Feed In Reading</title>
      <link>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Energy-Accounts-Plans/Live-Electricity-Usage-Reading-vs-Electricity-Usage-and-Solar/m-p/33617#M4849</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I agree with you, thanks for raising this, I'm also over the AGL APP.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;An AGL rep recently confirmed that the Total Cost To Date EXCLUDES THE DAILY SUPPLY CHARGE.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So the Total Cost is always understated, and therefore misleading.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Other retailer APPS (Origin, Powershop, Energy Locals etc) rightly include the Daily Supply Charge, and therefore provide a "true" Total Cost.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So maybe a switch is the way to go.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 21:37:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://neighbourhood.agl.com.au/t5/Energy-Accounts-Plans/Live-Electricity-Usage-Reading-vs-Electricity-Usage-and-Solar/m-p/33617#M4849</guid>
      <dc:creator>Beany</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-04T21:37:55Z</dc:date>
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